What a surprise
Jul. 14th, 2010 12:39 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
pecuniumThey have a little list...
This time it's not communists, and it's been shared with the public.
1,300 alleged to be undocumented
It's terrorism, of the sort the Brownshirts engaged in. None of the people on this list are white. "An anonymous group says it quietly watched Hispanics in their neighborhoods, schools, churches and "public welfare buildings" to compile a list of 1,300 people it says are illegal immigrants living in Utah. The group sent the list to law enforcement agencies and news media demanding that those named 'be deported immediately.'"
This is some of the fruit of the Arizona nonsense. It's racist nonsense. It's meant to make anyone who looks different afraid. The idea of stuff like this is to make undesirables leave.
"This is a way to terrorize people," said Tony Yapias, director of Proyecto Latino and a former state director of Hispanic affairs...
I'm nauseated," he said through tears. "All of these people are terrified. I don't have words to describe how scared they are. It just breaks my heart what they are telling me."
While some are worried about deportation, others fear that "crazy people" could use the list to hurt them or their families, Yapias said."
This is a guy who used to work for the state.
Because of the information on the list (some of it quite personal, medical information, and the like) there is rampant speculation that the allegations of the information being collated from careful observation are false, and there was someone inside the state gov't who collected it from confidential information.
Which, even if false, is part of the pernicious effect of this, there are a lot of people who will stop going to get services; which includes things like vaccinations, and other things which benefit the entire public.
Married to the sense that there are spies and informers everywhere. Part of the letter to the media said they had gotten such help, "We then spend the time and effort needed to gather information along with legal Mexican nationals who infiltrate their social networks and help us obtain the necessary information we need.".
Of course, any list so large, has people on it who aren't in violation of the law, One woman on the list who spoke to KSL but asked not to be identified said she had a green card and would become a U.S. citizen next month. "I have my papers," she said. "Why did they put me on that list? Now it's been 15 years since I got my residency...I'm angry." .
For those who just happen to not be white, there is the prospect of being followed, spied on, and the worry that their gov't records will be scrutinised, just in case some anonymous vigilante happens to think they might be here without the right papers.
Governor Herbert says he'll investigate, we'll see how thorough it is.
In any case, I suspect there will be more of this sort of intimidation. I don't think the press is going to be much use in suppressing this sort of thing, and I don't suspect the results of an investigation, even it leads to jail time, are going to change the atmosphere of intimidation.
This time it's not communists, and it's been shared with the public.
1,300 alleged to be undocumented
It's terrorism, of the sort the Brownshirts engaged in. None of the people on this list are white. "An anonymous group says it quietly watched Hispanics in their neighborhoods, schools, churches and "public welfare buildings" to compile a list of 1,300 people it says are illegal immigrants living in Utah. The group sent the list to law enforcement agencies and news media demanding that those named 'be deported immediately.'"
This is some of the fruit of the Arizona nonsense. It's racist nonsense. It's meant to make anyone who looks different afraid. The idea of stuff like this is to make undesirables leave.
"This is a way to terrorize people," said Tony Yapias, director of Proyecto Latino and a former state director of Hispanic affairs...
I'm nauseated," he said through tears. "All of these people are terrified. I don't have words to describe how scared they are. It just breaks my heart what they are telling me."
While some are worried about deportation, others fear that "crazy people" could use the list to hurt them or their families, Yapias said."
This is a guy who used to work for the state.
Because of the information on the list (some of it quite personal, medical information, and the like) there is rampant speculation that the allegations of the information being collated from careful observation are false, and there was someone inside the state gov't who collected it from confidential information.
Which, even if false, is part of the pernicious effect of this, there are a lot of people who will stop going to get services; which includes things like vaccinations, and other things which benefit the entire public.
Married to the sense that there are spies and informers everywhere. Part of the letter to the media said they had gotten such help, "We then spend the time and effort needed to gather information along with legal Mexican nationals who infiltrate their social networks and help us obtain the necessary information we need.".
Of course, any list so large, has people on it who aren't in violation of the law, One woman on the list who spoke to KSL but asked not to be identified said she had a green card and would become a U.S. citizen next month. "I have my papers," she said. "Why did they put me on that list? Now it's been 15 years since I got my residency...I'm angry." .
For those who just happen to not be white, there is the prospect of being followed, spied on, and the worry that their gov't records will be scrutinised, just in case some anonymous vigilante happens to think they might be here without the right papers.
Governor Herbert says he'll investigate, we'll see how thorough it is.
In any case, I suspect there will be more of this sort of intimidation. I don't think the press is going to be much use in suppressing this sort of thing, and I don't suspect the results of an investigation, even it leads to jail time, are going to change the atmosphere of intimidation.
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Date: 2010-07-15 03:13 am (UTC)I love the smell of schadenfreude in the morning.