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pecuniumI am not, sans peur et sans reproche, but if my strength is as ten, because my heart is pure, I hate to think how weary those who are merely possessed of normal stregnth feel with things like this.
It's about torture. It lists the authorised methods of torture we now have. We say they aren't torture, but they are.
This list isn't what wears at me. It disgusts me, but it disgusts me the way lots of things (corrupt cops, paedophilic preachers, politicians on the take, point shaving in sports; all the forms of everyday evil which the flesh is heir to); with a quiet sense of "As it was in the beginning, is now, and forever shall be, world without end." People are people, and possessed of venality.
No, it's the comments. I don't know why the people who argue for it (torture) irk me so. They are merely speaking, affirmatively, of things others have decided are to be done.
I don't know. Maybe I think that experience (mine) will persuade them, and like a shampoo commercial they'll tell two friends, and they'll tell two friends, and so on, and so on, and one of the evils of the world will be removed.
Becuase it doesn't work. Read accounts of witches in Europe, they all confessed to the same things. What, all of them were actually flying through the air, giving the devil blowjobs and the like? No. They were all tortured by people who had read the same playbook of what witches do.
The Inquisition never took evidence extracted with torture at face value; they required that those who had been tortured allocute in open court (this was a false thing, IMO, because to recant was to go back to the red hot irons and the rack). By the 17th century torture wasn't accepted anywhere in Europe, because it doesn't work.
Jack Bauer is a myth, the Ticking Bomb is a joke, and torture is evil.
I'm preaching to the choir. I'm just tired of repeating myself.
It's about torture. It lists the authorised methods of torture we now have. We say they aren't torture, but they are.
This list isn't what wears at me. It disgusts me, but it disgusts me the way lots of things (corrupt cops, paedophilic preachers, politicians on the take, point shaving in sports; all the forms of everyday evil which the flesh is heir to); with a quiet sense of "As it was in the beginning, is now, and forever shall be, world without end." People are people, and possessed of venality.
No, it's the comments. I don't know why the people who argue for it (torture) irk me so. They are merely speaking, affirmatively, of things others have decided are to be done.
I don't know. Maybe I think that experience (mine) will persuade them, and like a shampoo commercial they'll tell two friends, and they'll tell two friends, and so on, and so on, and one of the evils of the world will be removed.
Becuase it doesn't work. Read accounts of witches in Europe, they all confessed to the same things. What, all of them were actually flying through the air, giving the devil blowjobs and the like? No. They were all tortured by people who had read the same playbook of what witches do.
The Inquisition never took evidence extracted with torture at face value; they required that those who had been tortured allocute in open court (this was a false thing, IMO, because to recant was to go back to the red hot irons and the rack). By the 17th century torture wasn't accepted anywhere in Europe, because it doesn't work.
Jack Bauer is a myth, the Ticking Bomb is a joke, and torture is evil.
I'm preaching to the choir. I'm just tired of repeating myself.
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Date: 2006-09-13 06:40 am (UTC)I am glad you write about these things, though. I have referred to your writings when I have written about torture to support the point that it doesn't work. I would think it would be self-evident it wouldn't work, but a lot of people need expert voices, and you're a very articulate one.