Hobby horses
Sep. 27th, 2005 08:23 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
pecuniumI ride a few.
I belong to a couple of feminist communities on LJ.
They get trolled. Sometimes (as in this one) the trolls hoist a petard and hang themselves on it.
I try to deal with them simply. See the arrant nonsense, make a statement and then savage the reply (this is a pattern, not a rule, sometimes it's not a troll, just a confused person; or one who argues poorly, those we speak with as people of reason).
After that I try to not say any more, it's bad for my amity with the world.
If they annoy me too greatly (the [insert abusive adjective of choice... none of mine are strong enough] who argued, among other things that women weren't gettig killed fast enough in Iraq, so the ought to stop bitching about equal rights, comes to mind) and send other people to talk to him.
The one I linked to above, well it made me realise my hobby horses. I like to argue (I am certain there was a massive intake of breath when you read this), and people will digress. By way of example one of the posters in that discussion argues that sociology isn't a science, it's just statistical analysis. She also makes a lot of apple to oranges comparisons to prove her points.
This has drawn me into too many exchanges, esp. as I know, from past experience, it won't end well. Neither of us is going to feel satisfied when it's done.
So, to give this purpose, what hobby horses do you have; which you notice only after you've taken them to a gallop?
I belong to a couple of feminist communities on LJ.
They get trolled. Sometimes (as in this one) the trolls hoist a petard and hang themselves on it.
I try to deal with them simply. See the arrant nonsense, make a statement and then savage the reply (this is a pattern, not a rule, sometimes it's not a troll, just a confused person; or one who argues poorly, those we speak with as people of reason).
After that I try to not say any more, it's bad for my amity with the world.
If they annoy me too greatly (the [insert abusive adjective of choice... none of mine are strong enough] who argued, among other things that women weren't gettig killed fast enough in Iraq, so the ought to stop bitching about equal rights, comes to mind) and send other people to talk to him.
The one I linked to above, well it made me realise my hobby horses. I like to argue (I am certain there was a massive intake of breath when you read this), and people will digress. By way of example one of the posters in that discussion argues that sociology isn't a science, it's just statistical analysis. She also makes a lot of apple to oranges comparisons to prove her points.
This has drawn me into too many exchanges, esp. as I know, from past experience, it won't end well. Neither of us is going to feel satisfied when it's done.
So, to give this purpose, what hobby horses do you have; which you notice only after you've taken them to a gallop?
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Date: 2005-09-27 03:45 pm (UTC)They're attention whores who do not realize and if they do realize, they do not care to differentiate between good attention and bad attention. They can, when fed, destroy the cohesiveness and communication of any online community. Which is why I advocate starving them out.
I turned my hobby horse into a lamp. And now It sits by as I read My Friend Flicka. :)
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Date: 2005-09-27 03:52 pm (UTC)But to let them go, completely, without reasoned response isn't fair to those who don't know they are trolls, and get taken in by them. The ones I see in the feminist communities have gotten sort of subtle, but then again, they are looking to prove a case, so perhaps the aren't really trolls, but stalking horses.
TK