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I was talking about Social Security yesterday (the abuse of this story having numbers infuriates me. The most common is the "4 percent" problem. Yes, it's four percent of the paycheck, it's 30 percent of the SS tax), and it occured to me there was a way to increase the revenue, which wouldn't hurt the worker at all.

It, based on the evidence of places which have tried it, would help the economy.

Forget the raising of the cap (though I'm not against that, and it could generate a fair chunk o' change). No, raise the minimum wage. Looking at those places which have insituted a "living wage" law we see that 1: it doesn't hurt business. We draw this conclusion from the small businesses which can't spread the increase out by sinking it in a national budget; they haven't disappeared in places with a living wage. We also know that things which claim to be on narrow profit margin don't have such narrow margins as all that. McDonald's and Burger King have not left Santa Monica, I can only assume the franchisee is still making money.

2: It puts more money into the local economy. Someone who can't put a large chink of change into stocks/bonds, etc. isn't going to suddenly stop spending money and start investing in the market. No, he's going to take the wife and kids out to dinner once in a while. He might get a computer, or a freezer (so he can go to Costco and take advantage of being able to buy large quantities). He will reinvest in the local economy.

3: It will increase SS revenue.

The present minimum wage is a shame, and embarrasement. A crime. When it takes something like 60 hours a week to make enough to have one's own apartment, when people who are stuck in jobs that don't pay much more than that have to share rooms (and get looked down on as a result, seen as somehow less than worthy), when people have no hope of being able to send their kids to school; so those kids can move into the middle class... when the baseline we demand is an expectation so low it's looks like a variation on the workhouse... we, as a nation, have failed.


Oh yeah, go look at the the splash page for Google today. Gung ha fa choi



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Date: 2005-02-09 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crisavec.livejournal.com
I'm not so sure about raising the minimum wage not hurting local business. Alaska raised its min wage about a year ago, and we've had a couple business's go under since. The most prominent was one of the resturants downtown, and it was in the paper this morning actually. The minimum wage raising didn't directly do them in, but the increase in Workmans Comp payments did(how much a business pays per month to the Workmans Comp fund is directly tied to how much the employees earn).

These were Local businesses though..not big chains.

Date: 2005-02-09 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pecunium.livejournal.com
Looking at the cost of living, I can't imagine trying to make it in Alaska on minimum wage. As for restaurants, they have some of the worst stats, in both pay (because they can offer less than minimum, and the wait staff has to make it up in tips) and in survival.

Alaska.com gives the following as costs Housing and Food

Shopping to feed three I am spending about half that, and I buy more costly cuts of meat (albeit in bulk) and use things like olive oil and vegetables from the farmers market.

I also have to wonder about the pay structure in a state which offers a Cost of Living Allowance Alaska COLA.pdf though I might be misunderstanding it. If I am it is just for retireees Retired COLA but it more seems that is an additional COLA offered to those who retire in Alaska.

When one runs various checks on the relative merits of places to live the larger cities in Alaska do well, because, while the cost of living is highe than the national average (by 10-20 percent) the slaray is even higher than that (running between 20-30 percent above the national average).

But those combine to make minimum wage an even more meagre pittance than it is. If one needs two jobs to get by on it in Little Rock, how much more work must one do to get by in Fairbanks?

TK

Date: 2005-02-09 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kibbles.livejournal.com
I think having the federal minimum wage the minimum wage in NYC is disgusting. CT has $7 an hour, I believe. NYC is expensive as it is, but to have such a low minimum wage? Outrageous.

Your own apartment here would be at least $800 a month and that wouldn't be easy to find. Just really sad.

Date: 2005-02-09 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mayakda.livejournal.com
I like it.
My great idea for saving social security is implementing universal health care. Plus it will stimulate small businesses and start-ups.

Date: 2005-02-09 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ad-kay.livejournal.com
The present minimum wage is a shame, and embarrasement. A crime.

Preach it!

Today's Tet, isn't it?

Date: 2005-02-09 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pecunium.livejournal.com
Yep.

Happy Happy.

On Saturday the oriental market in SLO will have a lion dance. I hope to go take pictures.

They also have wonderful yummies (lots of soy sauces; one without wheat, several soup bases, strange things I can't read, noodles to beat the band, lots of sakes and good prices; the rice wine vinegar is cheaper than the local market).

They also have lychee jellies.

Ah...!

Date: 2005-02-09 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mayakda.livejournal.com
In the Philippines Chinese new year means gifts of tikoy. A very sticky rice cake that you can eat as is, or fried. Mmm.

Date: 2005-02-10 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ad-kay.livejournal.com
Looking forward to those pics!

Date: 2005-02-09 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennae.livejournal.com
I'm all for raising minimum wage...but then prices go up, so then the need to raise it again recurrs...never ending cycle.

My personal opinion is that we have a flat tax...say 10%..for everyone to pay. That, obviously, doesn't resolve the minimum wage issue, but I think it would take care of the tax issue and make things more fair. Don't think it will ever happen though.... =/

Speaking of Google, I figured out today that if you click on the splash picture, that it launches a search for the theme at hand. I can't believe I just noticed that! :)

Date: 2005-02-10 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ad-kay.livejournal.com
I am very far from being an economic expert--I rely on Brad DeLong and Atrios for econ analysis--but I do know that a flat tax a la Steve Forbes or Dick Armey is highly regressive. The tax rate is supposed to be PROgressive so that the burden falls greatest on those most able to pay, but Reaganomics and W have made a joke of that.

Date: 2005-02-10 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cluefairy-j.livejournal.com
This relates to the rich get richer, poor get poorer philosophy. And the whole the wider the gap between them, the worse off our economy, society, etc. is. Nobody believes it, tho.

Date: 2005-02-11 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pecunium.livejournal.com
Nope. And when the gap gets to great, you get 1798, or 1917, or 1949.

TK

Date: 2005-02-11 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prodigal.livejournal.com
Amen! Very well said, sir.

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