Damned straight there should be protest.
Oct. 22nd, 2008 06:41 pmTeresa, at Making Light, has a bangi-up post about What kind of “Election Day unrest” are we talking about?
She has a lot to support the question. The skinny is... McCain has lost. The polling data is very good (and if you have any interest in the numbers, Five Thirty Eight is THE place to go. Nate Silver was a sabremetrician which is to say he played with the records/stats of baseball. He knows how to read them, and they do a bang up job of not just giving you the results, but showing you how they got there. It is the best polling spot on the web). The polling data has been trending Obama for weeks, and it seems pretty tight. McCain is going to lose.
But there's a lot of intimation the people who staged a riot in Florida, whose supporters were firebombing Democratic offices in 2004, who have sent death threats to ACORN (unless you think it was an Obama Supporter who attacked them, after Palin and McCain started telling us what a threat to democracy they are), aren't looking forward to losing the, "Permanent Republican Majority".
This is no time to be complacent Make your vote. If you can, vote early. If it's a touchscreen, do your damndest to verify the vote. Encourage your friends to vote. Encourage your enemies to vote. Why? Because the Republicans have said, for more than 40 years, they do better when fewer people vote.
An honest election will have Obama win, or there will be an obvious shift in the mind of the nation, and we will know McCain won legitimately. But this idea that McCain winning an honest election will lead to riots... with the emphasis on prevention in cities like Detroit, and Oakland (which, co-incidentally have large black populations... race baiting much?) is meant to intimidate people.
Cops on the streets are not conducive to going out in peaceful enterprises. I'm white, and they make me nervous.
It's also a way to get the wishy-washy racists out. The ones who don't like either candidate, and so might stay home. This gives them something to go out for; keep them uppity-types from getting their way; remind 'em who's boss.
If that sudden groundswell of McCain Mania doesn't appear, and the 6 point lead Obama has suddenly melts away, and McCain comes out of nowhere? I will not be typing. I don't know where I will be, but someplace I can be seen, and heard. If it takes fifty, a hundred, "Orange Revolutions", we need to have them. If I have to hitchhike to Washington to stand on the Mall and be counted... well there are times and places to put it all on the line, and that would be one of them.
She has a lot to support the question. The skinny is... McCain has lost. The polling data is very good (and if you have any interest in the numbers, Five Thirty Eight is THE place to go. Nate Silver was a sabremetrician which is to say he played with the records/stats of baseball. He knows how to read them, and they do a bang up job of not just giving you the results, but showing you how they got there. It is the best polling spot on the web). The polling data has been trending Obama for weeks, and it seems pretty tight. McCain is going to lose.
But there's a lot of intimation the people who staged a riot in Florida, whose supporters were firebombing Democratic offices in 2004, who have sent death threats to ACORN (unless you think it was an Obama Supporter who attacked them, after Palin and McCain started telling us what a threat to democracy they are), aren't looking forward to losing the, "Permanent Republican Majority".
This is no time to be complacent Make your vote. If you can, vote early. If it's a touchscreen, do your damndest to verify the vote. Encourage your friends to vote. Encourage your enemies to vote. Why? Because the Republicans have said, for more than 40 years, they do better when fewer people vote.
An honest election will have Obama win, or there will be an obvious shift in the mind of the nation, and we will know McCain won legitimately. But this idea that McCain winning an honest election will lead to riots... with the emphasis on prevention in cities like Detroit, and Oakland (which, co-incidentally have large black populations... race baiting much?) is meant to intimidate people.
Cops on the streets are not conducive to going out in peaceful enterprises. I'm white, and they make me nervous.
It's also a way to get the wishy-washy racists out. The ones who don't like either candidate, and so might stay home. This gives them something to go out for; keep them uppity-types from getting their way; remind 'em who's boss.
If that sudden groundswell of McCain Mania doesn't appear, and the 6 point lead Obama has suddenly melts away, and McCain comes out of nowhere? I will not be typing. I don't know where I will be, but someplace I can be seen, and heard. If it takes fifty, a hundred, "Orange Revolutions", we need to have them. If I have to hitchhike to Washington to stand on the Mall and be counted... well there are times and places to put it all on the line, and that would be one of them.
Re: cops in the streets
Date: 2008-10-24 02:41 am (UTC)Re: cops in the streets
Date: 2008-10-24 03:19 am (UTC)You, Sir, just failed reading comprehension. Twice.
Let me try this one more time. Reread this bit carefully, paying attention to word choice, tone, etc.:
you have neglected to include "I have read it and a great deal of its sort and think it all great pile of nonsense" in your list of options.
Now. What do you think that means? You may use dictionaries and outside texts of any sort. Show your work. Use both sides of the paper if necessary.
I also don't need to do your research for you
I wouldn't let you within a hundred metres of any research I was doing. Not even to dust the stacks. Not on your present showing, anyway; I suppose it's possible that you are normally brighter than this but are actually
drunkunder the influence of some strong emotion ...But I see you have flounced, downthread, so this is all fairly pointless. More than it already was, I mean.
I wish you the best of luck in your future endeavours.
Re: cops in the streets
Date: 2008-10-24 09:03 pm (UTC)Yes, there are better informed people than you. I don't know that you are the best judge of who they happen to be.
I, for one, don't need to google Acorn. I've been following it, and attendant issues of voter suppression for some time. It's a republican hoax, a farrago of lies meant to make it seem the election is being stolen, so they can claim Obama is illegitimate.
Unless you have some evidence, rather than imperious demands that other people go and to the research needed to support the arguments you are pretending to make (asserting the evidence is available and people need to go find it, is chickenshit, and passive aggressive to boot. Abusing them because you were too lazy to 1: actually back up your assertions and 2: because you didn't bother to read them saying they had read the evidence and still didn't agree), you need not respond
Re: cops in the streets
Date: 2008-10-24 09:05 pm (UTC)