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The Supreme Court of Connecticut has ruled that same sex couples have the same rights as anybody else

California came to this realisation earlier this year. Right now there are those (with a huge deal of effort from the Church of Latter Day Saints) who want to enforce discrimination in the law. If you live in Calif. I cannot urge you strongly enough to be certain you go to the polls.

I don't care how you vote for president, and pretty much the same for all the other issues on the ballot, but this one... Prop 8, matters.

[profile] mihb got married today. If Prop 8 Passes, lots of people who didn't get it done before Nov 4. will be told they don't count (the jury is still out on what will happen to marriages like hers, which fall in the window before hate, fear and predjudice triumphed over reason and decency).

Regardless, those who aren't straight will be told they aren't as good as those who are.

Which is unconscionable. The churches may refuse to solemnize, fine. I couldn't care less if the Mormons don't want to marry gays. Even if this perfidy in the name of marriage passes they won't marry me unless I convert. They will still be able to deny the Mormon Rite of Marriage to all of us, gentiles so it's no skin off their, or any other churches' nose.

So, for all they preach it's about marriage, they lie.

It's about having a way to separate those they despise from the common run of humanity.

So, a toast to Conneticut, and all the couples who will get to be happy because of it.

Date: 2008-10-12 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicious-wench.livejournal.com
Lovely post. My mother-in-law and her wife got married a few years ago, but had to travel to Canada to do so. And it isn't recognized in the U.S.

One tiny nitpick, from a former East-Coaster: it's Connecticut. (I'm avoiding bad obvious puns about connecting in Connecticut.

Date: 2008-10-12 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pecunium.livejournal.com
That explains why it never looked right. Fixed now.

Date: 2008-10-12 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pdlloyd.livejournal.com
Yes. I've never accepted the argument that same-sex marriages are any threat to heterosexual marriages. My love for my husband and my commitment to our marriage are the same, regardless of the choices others have. If anything, I see extending the option for marriage to same-sex couples as strengthening the institution, not weakening it. Or, at the very least, strengthening families within our society.

Date: 2008-10-12 03:32 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] geekosaur
It's about having a way to separate those they despise from the common run of humanity.
No, it isn't. It's about claiming the common run of humanity isn't actually the common run of humanity, because they don't want to have to deal with the truth.

Date: 2008-10-12 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] don-fitch.livejournal.com
Thanks for the cite to that superb essay.

Date: 2008-10-13 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharon-masters.livejournal.com
GREAT essay. And, yes, i think we are all guilty of that from time to time... we think we KNOW middle america. We have hundreds of middle americas.
We are 50 3d world countries and 20 World leaders and a California is a state that rivals MOST countries GNP imports and exports.
We think we know things because we think we are all americans so we must all want the same thing.

I think we quit wanting the same thing about 40 years ago.

It just took us this long to wake up and see that we have lots of people that HATE each other and want exactly the opposite things.
So now what do we do about THAT?

Date: 2008-10-12 05:53 am (UTC)

Date: 2008-10-12 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bifemmefatale.livejournal.com
Relatedly, one of my friends linked me this morning to this moving sermon by a Catholic priest against Prop 8. He's risking his job to deliver it.
http://firinel.livejournal.com/2424019.html

Date: 2008-10-14 11:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wishkey.livejournal.com
That icon is teh shit. *highfives*

Date: 2008-10-13 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sharon-masters.livejournal.com
LOL.. i was gonna post the link to the donors http://sharon-masters.livejournal.com/184455.html but i see someone got it up already.

California is a bellweather for them. We are big, and we have power. They are scared to death of us. We can use the help of everyone in the USA to offset the nationwide money pouring in here to defeat our beliefs and undermine our states rights.

Don't pray for us-- support the bill, send money to a candidate you approve or of a committee that will spend it to stop 8.

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