Recruiters
May. 11th, 2005 10:01 amSoldiers (and I'll wager seamen, airmen and Marines) have an ambivalent attitude toward recruiters.
None of us got the whole truth. Part of that is unavoidable. Basic (and the service after that) isn't something one can explain. One can equip a friend (or recruit) with tools to make it easier (Jerry Pournelle gave me the best piece of advice I got before I left for Basic, not "One day at a time," but rather, "The day comes to an end." There were a couple of days I was chanting that to myself, while doing pushups [as corrective training; group] at about 0430. It helped, a lot).
My recruiter did her best. I don't think SFC Provencher (whom I still think of as Susan, but that's a longer story... and nothing untoward about it), told me any knowing lies, but there were things about my MOS she didn't know (I was the first person she enlisted into it. It was two-years before I could come back to tell her what it was really like).
But I had guys in Basic who had been told their Drill Sergeants would get them into Airborne, Ranger, Scuba, school. You name it and anyone who has been in for more than a couple of years has met someone whose recruiter sold them a bill of goods.
Hell, my father ended up in the Marines because the Navy shafted him out of a school. It's endemic.
And it has been for centuries. The English used to recruit with a pile of sovereigns. Go to a pub, in a flashy uniform, buy a bunch o' drinks, point out the money one gets for enlisting. Get them to sign their names, take the schilling and kiss the book. Before you can say, "Bob's yer uncle," you've got a whole sqaud's worth of guys who've lost their weaving jobs, or don't want to stay on the farm.
After they've been marched to the garrison you tell them 1: if they leave they can be hanged (which rarely happened in Britain, things were different on the Penninsula, but what did they know of that?) and 2: all that money they were promised is going to pay for uniforms, billets and the like.
So I have mixed feelings when I see some of the shenannigans being committed by recruiters. The ones who point, otherwise trivially enlistable, candidates to diploma mills for a GED (thus avoiding the hassle involved in getting a waiver), not a big problem to me (I am assuming, arguendo, these recruits have the IQ, and the ASVAB scores to make decent soldiers, as well as being old enough to make their own decisions).
The idiots in Ohio who enlisted a guy with mental problems, straight out of treatment (I don't want a bi-polar, or manic-depressive, or whatever the nom-de-jour is for that problem to be under stress with me [or anyone else, for that matter] when he has a loaded weapon. Call me silly I guess) they pissed me off.
Ok, that's bad enough. But this... this (Password required. Try Bugmenot.com if you want to avoid registering. KHOU, the site, is really sticky, and it took me several tries to get a good one) takes the cake.
"Sgt. Thomas Kelt left this message on that young man's cell phone: "Hey Chris, this is Sgt. Kelt with the Army man. I think we got disconnected. Okay, I know you were on your cell probably and just had a bad connection or something like that. I know you didn't hang up on me. Anyway, by federal law you got an appointment with me at 2 o'clock this afternoon at Greenspoint Mall, okay? That's the Greenspoint Mall Army Recruiting Station at 2 o'clock. You fail to appear and we'll have a warrant. Okay? So give me a call back."
You read that right. He threatened to have the guy arrested because he hung up on him. Used a turn of phrase which pushes my buttons, "I know you didn't hang up on me." It's threatening, by itself, combined with the outright threat of swearing out a warrant for not showing up (I am curious as to what federal law the kid broke).
Now, there is one way I can see this being a legitimate call, If the kid had sworn in already and was supposed to ship out.
But the Army's response to this makes that look less likely. They've called a stand-down for all recruiting, nationwide. That doesn't happen for much. Calif. did one three or four years ago, because a unit was leaving Camp SLO to go home, and people forgot basic safety (such as seeing to it drivers were awake enough to drive. There are regulations about this. Eight hours of sleep in a night [things are different in combat zones, but not that much. At least fours hours in twenty-four was what we had, and that was in April 2003, by May, when it was local patrols, not unit movement required to perform the battalion's mission, we made it six. Minimum) which led to a rolled HUMMVEE, on Highway 1. A dead soldier is what it took to get the state to do a four-hour stand down for safety briefings. This is an entire day, nationwide, for recruiters).
I have a lot of thoughts on who ought to be signing up (I don't see Jonah Goldberg taking advantage of the raising of the upper age limit, then again, he says the cost; financially, would be too dear), but to threaten people? To coerce them? I don't want that in my army.
None of us got the whole truth. Part of that is unavoidable. Basic (and the service after that) isn't something one can explain. One can equip a friend (or recruit) with tools to make it easier (Jerry Pournelle gave me the best piece of advice I got before I left for Basic, not "One day at a time," but rather, "The day comes to an end." There were a couple of days I was chanting that to myself, while doing pushups [as corrective training; group] at about 0430. It helped, a lot).
My recruiter did her best. I don't think SFC Provencher (whom I still think of as Susan, but that's a longer story... and nothing untoward about it), told me any knowing lies, but there were things about my MOS she didn't know (I was the first person she enlisted into it. It was two-years before I could come back to tell her what it was really like).
But I had guys in Basic who had been told their Drill Sergeants would get them into Airborne, Ranger, Scuba, school. You name it and anyone who has been in for more than a couple of years has met someone whose recruiter sold them a bill of goods.
Hell, my father ended up in the Marines because the Navy shafted him out of a school. It's endemic.
And it has been for centuries. The English used to recruit with a pile of sovereigns. Go to a pub, in a flashy uniform, buy a bunch o' drinks, point out the money one gets for enlisting. Get them to sign their names, take the schilling and kiss the book. Before you can say, "Bob's yer uncle," you've got a whole sqaud's worth of guys who've lost their weaving jobs, or don't want to stay on the farm.
After they've been marched to the garrison you tell them 1: if they leave they can be hanged (which rarely happened in Britain, things were different on the Penninsula, but what did they know of that?) and 2: all that money they were promised is going to pay for uniforms, billets and the like.
So I have mixed feelings when I see some of the shenannigans being committed by recruiters. The ones who point, otherwise trivially enlistable, candidates to diploma mills for a GED (thus avoiding the hassle involved in getting a waiver), not a big problem to me (I am assuming, arguendo, these recruits have the IQ, and the ASVAB scores to make decent soldiers, as well as being old enough to make their own decisions).
The idiots in Ohio who enlisted a guy with mental problems, straight out of treatment (I don't want a bi-polar, or manic-depressive, or whatever the nom-de-jour is for that problem to be under stress with me [or anyone else, for that matter] when he has a loaded weapon. Call me silly I guess) they pissed me off.
Ok, that's bad enough. But this... this (Password required. Try Bugmenot.com if you want to avoid registering. KHOU, the site, is really sticky, and it took me several tries to get a good one) takes the cake.
"Sgt. Thomas Kelt left this message on that young man's cell phone: "Hey Chris, this is Sgt. Kelt with the Army man. I think we got disconnected. Okay, I know you were on your cell probably and just had a bad connection or something like that. I know you didn't hang up on me. Anyway, by federal law you got an appointment with me at 2 o'clock this afternoon at Greenspoint Mall, okay? That's the Greenspoint Mall Army Recruiting Station at 2 o'clock. You fail to appear and we'll have a warrant. Okay? So give me a call back."
You read that right. He threatened to have the guy arrested because he hung up on him. Used a turn of phrase which pushes my buttons, "I know you didn't hang up on me." It's threatening, by itself, combined with the outright threat of swearing out a warrant for not showing up (I am curious as to what federal law the kid broke).
Now, there is one way I can see this being a legitimate call, If the kid had sworn in already and was supposed to ship out.
But the Army's response to this makes that look less likely. They've called a stand-down for all recruiting, nationwide. That doesn't happen for much. Calif. did one three or four years ago, because a unit was leaving Camp SLO to go home, and people forgot basic safety (such as seeing to it drivers were awake enough to drive. There are regulations about this. Eight hours of sleep in a night [things are different in combat zones, but not that much. At least fours hours in twenty-four was what we had, and that was in April 2003, by May, when it was local patrols, not unit movement required to perform the battalion's mission, we made it six. Minimum) which led to a rolled HUMMVEE, on Highway 1. A dead soldier is what it took to get the state to do a four-hour stand down for safety briefings. This is an entire day, nationwide, for recruiters).
I have a lot of thoughts on who ought to be signing up (I don't see Jonah Goldberg taking advantage of the raising of the upper age limit, then again, he says the cost; financially, would be too dear), but to threaten people? To coerce them? I don't want that in my army.