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I got a tip today. It was a pointer to a story my dad told me about, one which I chalked up to the usual sorts of unbelievable movie-plot paranoia. Nonsense about Iranians (ooh... bad: they want The Bomb, and they are scary muslims and there's the whole embassy thing) going to Venezuela (land of Hugo Chavez; a guy who refused to stay kicked out of office when we backed a coup, who, moreover, had the guts to speak his mind about Bush fils), and learning Spanish so they can sneak into the US and do bad things.

Big whoop. I mean really, the things I hear people saying... this is bizarro-land.

But, as I said, I got a tip that I might want to comment on it, so I read the article.

All of a sudden I was scared. My father, you see, hadn't told me whom the pearl-clutching, scared of her own shadow person was (heck, he didn't even tell me it was a woman; just a person who was less than completely rational).

Representative Sue Myrick (R-NC). That would be the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee. The presumptive head of that committee should the Republicans regain control of the House in November.

Who thinks it would take a border agent who can tell the difference between Venezuelan spanish, and "Mexian" spanish, to spot the Iranian infiltrator. Forget that this shows a really massive failure to understand just how different the two sound (I don't speak spanish, but understands some. I have french and russian, on top of my english; Argentine spanish sounds much more french to me than Mexican spanish does, I can't imagine Venezuelan isn't also fairly different).

Never mind that in six months, I don't see most people being able to learn enough of any foreign language to take in anyone else who has a passing familiarity with the language.

What has she to support this theory... tattoos.

It seems there are inmates with farsi tattoos, in the California prison system. I don't know how she knows this, I presume someone who is fluent has told her; because it's tricky for me to spot the difference between arabic and farsi; I am pretty good at spotting farsi (call it 75 percent) if I have a large block of text (call it 300 words). I can't tell you how I figure it out, but when I was working to ID the language of web pages, I could spot farsi pretty well; with that length of text, but from a tattoo... it need an expert.

From that she adduces they are, hell I don't know what she adduces, the comments she made in the clip are in something which looks like english, but doesn't seem to make sense the way english ought.

It can't be that in a state with 30 million people, and a very large Iranian community, that some of them might be criminals, and some of those criminals might have tattoos; in farsi, nope. It has to be the big bad terrorists, getting help from the big bad Venezuelans, so they can exploit the porosity of the border with Mexico and blow us up.

Really, I can't even begin to make this sort of thing up; who would believe it?

Date: 2010-07-16 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sylphslider.livejournal.com
It seems there are inmates with farsi tattoos, in the California prison system.

This made me laugh, because it shows (again) just how out of touch the GOP is with youth culture in general.

I know lots of people who tattoo lots of things on their bodies in all sorts of scripts. Japanese is passé now, but I hear Sanskrit is hot.

Just because someone has a tattoo on their body in Farsi doesn't make them Iranian.

Date: 2010-07-16 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaotic-nipple.livejournal.com
What I wonder is, how many prison guards can tell the difference between a tattoo in Farsi, and one in Arabic? Seeing as they're written in the same script and all.

Date: 2010-07-17 05:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] songblaze.livejournal.com
...I really need to learn to read my middle name in Sanskrit, because it's something I actually expect people might get tattooed on their bodies. 'Beloved of Kali'

All the funnier because A) it seems to be entirely too apt, if you look at the level of chaos that happens with my health and thus my life and B) my parents had no idea what it meant, they just liked the sound.

Date: 2010-07-17 05:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] eagle
Yes, this. One of the Spanish-speaking staff at the place where I normally eat lunch is obviously Chinese, since he's got Chinese script tattooed behind his ear.

Sigh.

When I was a college student maintaining the local TeX installation, I fell in love with Devanagari script. Tattoos are all about designs that look awesome, and for those of us who grew up with Latin script and therefore are overly familiar with it, it takes a lot of work to make it look anywhere near as awesome as Devanagari or Farsi or Arabic or Chinese. They're also all about being personal, and using non-local languages has been a simple way to do secret writing since, oh, the beginning of language.

Date: 2010-07-23 04:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] billstewart.livejournal.com
Even if you fix it, it's still not going to make sense, because you'll just be more accurately reporting stuff said by somebody who's not particularly rational, speaking to an audience who are more interested in scariness than rationality... Sigh.

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