This is what voter Fraud, and Intimidation look like

[pecunium]

A man arrested for voter fraud in Ontario Calif.

A crowd intimidating voters in N. Carolina.

Take a guess about which side was doing those. Good luck finding comparable examples from the other side of the aisle.

(p.s. the Michigan GOP admits to illegally trying to suppress voters)

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[swseat.livejournal.com]

What this individual did was horrible. He deserves to be punished to the full extent of the law, especially since he was in the business and had knowledge of voter laws and chose to violate them. As for comparable examples, you've got to be kidding me. How about that guy who registered 73 times so his buddies could get paid for each one. Or maybe we could sum it up in one word. ACORN. As for the second one, did you listen or actually watch that tape? The loud mouth idiot was for some third party candidate. The person who was a McCain supporter was upset because a government registration place that would never be open on Sunday was open on Sunday to specifically accommodate an Obama rally. That never made the national news, but had it been a McCain rally, NBC would run it 24/7. As to dropped lawsuit, The lawsuit was filed by the Democrats and it was dropped by the Democrats. You don't know what was in the agreement because the settlement was confidential. What is true is that if you file a frivolous lawsuit, and the other side offers to conclude a case, even for a buck, if you don't get that buck, you owe costs. It's called an offer of judgment. As an insurance adjuster, I use it all the time against frivolous lawsuits. I am quiet sure that voter registration laws would not allow this use of disclosure. I also would point out that if you have your home foreclosed upon and you vote as registered voter living in that home, you would be committing voter fraud.

Re: voting fraud

[bobmage.livejournal.com]

Lets see - ACORN is the victim of fraud, they flag the suspect registrations(which by law they are required to submit) and ask the elections officials to investigate.
So, out of over 1 million new registrations, about 0.5% are suspect. They aren't likely to lead to false votes, because no one is actually showing up to the polls to vote as Mickey Mouse. Please note that even with the full attention of the Justice Department and the FBI, there have been no convictions of Democrats for election fraud - just conveniently timed "investigations".

Meanwhile, the GOP has a consistent policy of fraudulently deregistering legitimate voters - which guarantees people will show up to the polls and not be allowed their ballot. That's not a problem, because....?

Re: voting fraud

[swseat.livejournal.com]

Sigh, you still believe the drivel you see on nbc. Ok here is your example. In Ohio, Acorn registered many thousands of voters. They had a 7 day window where you could register and vote on the same day. At the same time they dumped all registrations the last day on the doorstep of the individual counties. Those folks only have 14 days to check them all. At that point, all registration cards are separated from the vote and it is impossible to cross reference the secret ballot from the improper registration. When the counties asked for help to cross reference these from the state the Democrat secretary of state refused. Now mind you, ACORN registered these people over several months, but they dumped them on the last day with tongue in cheek notes that some of them might be suspect. By the time what really happened gets out in the news, Obama will be running for his second term.

Re: voting fraud

[bobmage.livejournal.com]

Which drivel? I LIVED in Ohio in 2004. Democratic precincts had 4+ hour lines for voting, while Republican precincts had walk-in-and-vote, due to the state withholding voting machines from the urban areas. This was not a "no one could forsee" situation - Cuyahoga County had complained they were short on machines, the Republican SoS basically told them "tough".

And, since the alleged problem is fraudulent votes, why haven't there been thousands of convictions for fraudulent votes? Because, in spite of continuous efforts to drum up bogus charges (that's why those US Attorneys were fired - they wouldn't file false charges), there simply aren't significant numbers of people trying to vote fraudulently.

The real issue is that the more people vote, the tougher it is on Republicans - so whine about trace amounts of voter (registration) fraud to distract from disenfranchising a few million legal voters.

And only 14 days? Too bad. That's their damn job. Want more time? Change the law ahead of time. I recall that date was set by a Republican-controlled legislature.

[wolodymyr.livejournal.com]

Thank you.

[wolodymyr.livejournal.com]

Agreed, your points would be better made straight. Derision has no place with facts.

God knows, according to our national idiom, I should try to score off you cleverly here for entertainment value, but the idea's boring as well as repulsive.

Re: voting fraud

[starcat-jewel.livejournal.com]

Do you have any actual evidence for this, or is it just something you heard Rush Limbaugh say? Note: links to wingnut blog sites don't qualify as actual evidence -- I want to see original sources.

Re: voting fraud

[swseat.livejournal.com]

That information was reported on several cable tv news stations. Cnn and Fox and probably more. It was also on msn, but only as a left wing slur and a crow at the secretary of state winning the delay from the supreme court. That site would never mention anything negative involving their darling acorn. However, if you spend enough time (and you don't have to go through right wing blogs) you can probably find it.

Re: voting fraud

[raaven.livejournal.com]

So, basically, you cannot point us to a reliable, verifiable source for these allegations? No links? No document IDs? Nothing?

Useless.

Re: voting fraud

[sharon-masters.livejournal.com]

The amount of propaganda repeated by you (swseat) without citations is mind boggling.
Please do quote sources if you want to be taken seriously.
FYI: Rush Limbaugh is not a source (except of amusement).

Re: voting fraud

[tongodeon.livejournal.com]

According to federal prosecutors, the fictitious names submitted by Acorn are "an easy way to get paid, not as an attempt to influence the outcome of elections (http://tongodeon.livejournal.com/781205.html)". Mickey Mouse does not actually show up to vote on election day.

Also, federal regulations require all ballot registrations to be submitted even if they are obviously fictitious. Allowing third party registrants to choose which registrations to submit opens the door to actual fraudulent attempts to influence the outcome of elections.