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Three weeks afer the fact some Palin supporter has arrived to inform me of my ignorance. I, you see, am not clued in to Bible Truth. I screwed up. I said Jesus was a community activist. It was a snide comparison of Palin to Pilate, as a means of showing her to be in cahoots with the wealthy, while Obama was looking out for the people who acually need help.

I am informed by someone too shy to append their name to the Witnessing they are doing for Christ that I have it all wrong.

Please get your Bible facts straight. Jesus is the Messiah. It was
Barabbas who was the community activist.


So... Being the Messiah means Jesus couldn't have been a community activist. He was too busy being Godly, or something. Those passages where he says be kind to one another, you will be judged on how you treated the least among you, all that. Nothing to do with community at all.

Barabbas ("son of the father") was a community activist. We know this because he's so prevalent in the New Testament. There are ten whole references to Barabbas to him: Five in Matthew, three in Mark, and one ea. in Luke and John. That's being generous, and counting each verse. If you take them as units, there is one referece in each gospel.

My favorite, the one which shows his dedication to the community is Mark 15:7
And there was one named Barabbas, which lay bound with them that had made insurrection with him, who had committed murder in the insurrection.
.

John 18:40 is a little more spare,
Then cried they all again, saying, Not this man, but Barabbas. Now Barabbas was a robber.
.

Funny idea of activist.

But that's not the point. The point is to play with people who actually don't know the bible. This coward (I plead my case under my own name, if my witness brings me scorn and opprobrium, well Jesus said the birds of the air have their nests, and the foxes of the fields have their dens, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head) is trying to make a connection to the murdering revolutionary Barabbas. I am sure the, vague similarity in names (Barack, Barabbas) is part of the meme they are trying to sow.

Retro me Satanas.


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Date: 2008-09-25 02:09 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] wetdryvac.livejournal.com
Fascinating. Having very little background in the bible (One course in college, "The Bible as Literature," Using the King James as source.) I find myself generally rendered curious by folks quoting the bible (whichever one they have as gospel) as foundation for arguments. A post like this gives me a bit of insight into something I'm barely on the fringes of - something which moves rather a lot of people - and provides the opportunity to see a call and response set operate.

Thank-you.

Date: 2008-09-25 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pecunium.livejournal.com
The bible is important, because there are so many tropes we take from it; even those who've not studied it have bits of emotive response to things/ideas from it.

The Golden Rule, Turn the other cheek, etc.

Some of them (The Golden Rule) have consistent misunderstandings (the Golden Rule doesn't tell you to be nice to people, and not hit them, it says if you don't want to be hit, don't hit. If you don't care that someone hits you, you can [in keeping with the letter, not the spirit] hit them to your hearts content), but there are so many which fly below the radar, even of those who don't believe.

So knowing the tools of the trade is important.

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