Rhetorical question
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pecuniumSo, torture mongers and apologists explain that torture (according to the sources they choose to believe) works.
They also say that because it works, and it saves lives, we need to use it.
We are also told that it is only used when the case is so strong that it justifies the moral quandaries of little things like breaking the law and violating the norms of the civilised world and the principles we used to hold countries like the USSR and PRC accountable for, because such things were evil.
It is further explained that because such careful decisions are made those who engage in torture can always depend on the courts to vindicate them. They will just explain that it was needful, they were certain the guy had the info, he gave it up, and lives were saved.
The, inevitable, result, so they say, is the jury will acquit.
Given all of those things; one wonders why the CIA felt it had to destroy the evidence, and committ a completely different crime, not one against people but against the rule of law.
They also say that because it works, and it saves lives, we need to use it.
We are also told that it is only used when the case is so strong that it justifies the moral quandaries of little things like breaking the law and violating the norms of the civilised world and the principles we used to hold countries like the USSR and PRC accountable for, because such things were evil.
It is further explained that because such careful decisions are made those who engage in torture can always depend on the courts to vindicate them. They will just explain that it was needful, they were certain the guy had the info, he gave it up, and lives were saved.
The, inevitable, result, so they say, is the jury will acquit.
Given all of those things; one wonders why the CIA felt it had to destroy the evidence, and committ a completely different crime, not one against people but against the rule of law.
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Date: 2007-12-19 10:57 pm (UTC)1: It's the heart of the matter. When someone alleges Plame wasn't covert they are saying the entire investigation was as empty of value as "Troopergate".
2: That allegation (that Plame wasn't covert) also says the CIA knowingly initiated a false claim of her covertness when they petitioned the DoJ to investigate.
3: Which means they are alleging perjury on the part of a whole lot of people, in order to... who knows. But it requires a conspiracy to get such a thing done.
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Date: 2007-12-19 11:39 pm (UTC)See, I was making a mild nitpick of the response to the claim, not the claim itself. It seemed obvious at the time :-).