On Waterboarding.
Nov. 6th, 2007 03:46 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
pecuniumFrom Malcom Nance (One time Master Instructor, and Director of Training, US NAVY SERE School)
With regards to the waterboard, I want to set the record straight so the apologists can finally embrace the fact that they condone and encourage torture.
You should read the rest
One of the things his article points out is one of the things I've been saying for years.
On a Mekong River trip, I met a 60-year-old man, happy to be alive and a cheerful travel companion, who survived the genocide and torture … he spoke openly about it and gave me a valuable lesson: “If you want to survive, you must learn that ‘walking through a low door means you have to be able to bow.’” He told his interrogators everything they wanted to know including the truth. They rarely stopped. In torture, he confessed to being a hermaphrodite, a CIA spy, a Buddhist Monk, a Catholic Bishop and the son of the king of Cambodia. He was actually just a school teacher whose crime was that he once spoke French. He remembered “the Barrel” version of waterboarding quite well. Head first until the water filled the lungs, then you talk.
Which is, of course, more evidence that torture is not only immoral, but ineffective.
I will close with a section heading, because it sums up the present problem.
There is No Debate Except for Torture Apologists
So there it is, from someone else who knows, the only "debate" on the issue is from torture-mongers and apologists.
With regards to the waterboard, I want to set the record straight so the apologists can finally embrace the fact that they condone and encourage torture.
You should read the rest
One of the things his article points out is one of the things I've been saying for years.
On a Mekong River trip, I met a 60-year-old man, happy to be alive and a cheerful travel companion, who survived the genocide and torture … he spoke openly about it and gave me a valuable lesson: “If you want to survive, you must learn that ‘walking through a low door means you have to be able to bow.’” He told his interrogators everything they wanted to know including the truth. They rarely stopped. In torture, he confessed to being a hermaphrodite, a CIA spy, a Buddhist Monk, a Catholic Bishop and the son of the king of Cambodia. He was actually just a school teacher whose crime was that he once spoke French. He remembered “the Barrel” version of waterboarding quite well. Head first until the water filled the lungs, then you talk.
Which is, of course, more evidence that torture is not only immoral, but ineffective.
I will close with a section heading, because it sums up the present problem.
There is No Debate Except for Torture Apologists
So there it is, from someone else who knows, the only "debate" on the issue is from torture-mongers and apologists.
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Date: 2007-11-07 02:40 am (UTC)So if people are saying to one another, "hey, it's a good thing the army roughed up those al-Qaeda bigwigs, because it saved lives, etc., etc.", then torture is effective--at justifying and perpetuating its own existence.