I was wrong
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pecuniumIt seems the early returns I saw were on a different bit of the fight over this.
The real numbers are worse.
65-34.
Only one republican voted against it (Chafee) and 12 dems voted for it.
Word on the street is that people are afraid that filibustering it will hurt them, given what happened last time around (with "principle votes" wherein the elected official votes the way he thinks will make him look good, because the margin is so lop-sided [like say an bill to make teaching physics to anyone who wasn't 18] that voting against the way the bill comes out is just a parlor trick, a bit of theater to make it look as if one has priciples) there doesn't seem to be any reason to not filibuster. To not actually show some principles.
So, the offending Democrats are :Carper (Del.), Johnson (S.D.), Landrieu (La.), Lautenberg (N.J.), Lieberman (Conn.), Menendez (N.J), Nelson (Fla.), Nelson (Neb.), Pryor (Ark.), Rockefeller (W. Va.), Salazar (Co.), Stabenow (Mich.).
Jeffords voted against it.
This is going to be a nasty can of worms to try and fix.
The real numbers are worse.
65-34.
Only one republican voted against it (Chafee) and 12 dems voted for it.
Word on the street is that people are afraid that filibustering it will hurt them, given what happened last time around (with "principle votes" wherein the elected official votes the way he thinks will make him look good, because the margin is so lop-sided [like say an bill to make teaching physics to anyone who wasn't 18] that voting against the way the bill comes out is just a parlor trick, a bit of theater to make it look as if one has priciples) there doesn't seem to be any reason to not filibuster. To not actually show some principles.
So, the offending Democrats are :Carper (Del.), Johnson (S.D.), Landrieu (La.), Lautenberg (N.J.), Lieberman (Conn.), Menendez (N.J), Nelson (Fla.), Nelson (Neb.), Pryor (Ark.), Rockefeller (W. Va.), Salazar (Co.), Stabenow (Mich.).
Jeffords voted against it.
This is going to be a nasty can of worms to try and fix.
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Re: I am now officially ashamed of being an American
Date: 2006-09-29 03:24 am (UTC)On my bad days, I see civil war.
On my not so bad days I see dark times ahead, and a return to sanity (which requires turning the bums out. After that I don't know what it needs to prevent their return, but that has to happen too).
On my really bad days I see neither of those.
TK
Re: I am now officially ashamed of being an American
Date: 2006-09-29 03:28 am (UTC)This entire thing just chills me.