Aggregation

[pecunium]

I am, in context, for it. I like they way the net lets me compile all sorts of related facts; which I can then ponder and discuss.

But there are limits. Buzz has me thinking about it. I think I am likely to go to the effort to opt out. What it does doesn't really appeal to me enough to make up for the intrusion it introduces to me e-mail.

I'm not a Luddite. I do, perhaps, have some amish-like traits. I am not so much an early adopter as I am a patient one. I didn't get a cell phone until I had to (Maia and I were a continent apart). I am still irked that to get the features I wanted on my present phone (purchased because the first phone I got.... in 2003, died), I had to get a camera in it too.

Which is why I agree with this guy.

Unlink your feeds

I have a faceboook account. I have a flickr account. I have an Lj. I have a twitter account.

None of them talk to each other. I use them for different things, but more to the point, I don't want to make an opt-out model for things. If someone wants to read the odd retweet I make (I think I have twittered maybe four times, one of them to enter a contest), they can look me up.

I don't feel it all that kind to force them to read m on Lj (this is not a smack at the people on Lj who post tweets. It's my quirk).

There are also some other problems; structural ones, he discusses. Go, read the manifesto. He might be wrong, but he's got some points which ought to be pondered.

Comments

[slave2tehtink.livejournal.com]

Re-posting Twitter to a blog like LJ bugs the crap out of me, mostly because they seem to constantly be half of a conversation and anyway, if I wanted to be reading your tweets I'd be following you on Twitter.

[pecunium.livejournal.com]

I agree, though I have friends who repost, not link. They also seem to use twitter differently from most of the tweets I've seen.

[sylphslider.livejournal.com]

I think it's ok if it's behind a cut-tag.

I have a friend who has entirely turned her blog into a collection of her tweets. I don't read her blog any more.

[sylphslider.livejournal.com]

I've been thinking about unlinking my twitter to my facebook. I dislike it when I have to read people's stuff twice - so I should probably not do it myself. :)

[michiexile]

Am I one of these? *just curious*

[michiexile]

I will keep my Twitter -> Facebook link, as well as my LJ -> Facebook link. Main reason is that I have many family contacts who only read my Facebook, but expect this to be a reasonably complete coverage of my life for them. The easiest way to provide them with this is to feed them the things that make out my life.

I just now - after maybe 6 months or so of experimentation - unlinked my Twitter -> Livejournal link, since I'm realizing that it makes my blog look just like a collection of tweets, no matter to what extent it actually _is_ that.

[pecunium.livejournal.com]

I must confess, I don't know. It happens I have been too busy to read much Lj in the past 6-8 months. When I have, I have not been bothered by you cross-tweeting.

[michiexile]

Fair enough.

[rawbery79.livejournal.com]

The only reason I link Twitter to my LJ is so I have a backup of my tweets, since I'm not sure how long Twitter archives them. I do my friends the favor of cutting them, out of courtesy. But that's all I have linked...

[mycroftw.livejournal.com]

I can see having one site which is simply an aggregator - and if there's duplicates in other services, then there's duplicates in the aggregator. But the "Unlink your feeds" guy is complaining about "in order to get information X, I have to take information Y which I may already have read"; as long as (in Michi's case, for instance) there's nothing on Facebook exclusively, then people can pick and choose what they need, or get the firehose "everything" option - there will be no reason to have to take the firehose or miss something important to them.

Having said that, I have many many reasons to sequester my online lives; not least the "people from school that could still be hazardous to my health" issue. So I'm not a social media guy, really; and Buzz can go ~ off (for the dictionary geeks out there).

[michiexile]

There are some things that are exclusive to Facebook in my case - but those are mainly things that make sense in Facebook's particular environment; and having Facebook be the firehose is, for me, a way to provide my less savvy contacts - who all seem to digest Facebook well, but multiple media not so much, with updates on me and my life.

That said, your second point is very well taken. I'm very happy to lead such a secure and comfortable life that I don't really need to worry about segregating my online persona or keeping away from actual threats. Of this I am very, very, very thankful.

[starcat-jewel.livejournal.com]

I agree with this. There are a couple of people I've had to hide on Facebook, because they have everything interlinked, and so I'd be getting the Facebok post, and then the Facebook link to the LJ copy of the facebook post, and then the Facebook link to the Twitter copy of the Facebook post, and then the Facebook link to the LJ copy of the Twitter post, and then the Facebook link to the Twitter copy of the LJ post... recursively ad infinitum, ad nauseam. It's less annoying on LJ, possibly because I have fewer friends here than I do on Facebook. And I have a Twitter account, but I think I've made 3 posts on it -- so Facebook is where the problem really shows up for me. I think to some extent it also depends on how often somebody posts; seeing 2 duplicate-information posts from someone in a day is much different from seeing 20 or 30.

If I want to talk about the same thing on Facebook and LJ, I do one of two things: either discuss it separately, in ways that are appropriate to each site, or manually link the LJ post into Facebook. That seems to work pretty well for me, and I don't think it annoys anyone else.