In Ottawa, we had two horrible incidents a few years ago where two women were murdered in wooded areas that were actually quite close to well-travelled roads/housing developments. The best that could be reconstructed afterwards is that the attackers fooled the women into stopping and talking to them, rather than jumping out of shrubbery.
We had two recent incidents in the last month of attacks on paths -- this time both victims were male.
If an area is dangerous for women, it's dangerous for everyone.
The reaction should be to remove any obvious hiding places for attackers, possibly to increase lighting (if that can be done w/o increasing glare), and if necessary, put up signage suggesting that it not be used after dark. That also depends whether the path is an important pedestrian/cyclist link that needs to be accessible 24h/day or whether it's just for recreation.
This is on the Dockland Light Railway, on the Isle of Dogs.
Mudchute DLR is where the line goes underground, and one side is open parkland. Crossharbour is the next station north, Island Gardens the next south, both with more urban approaches.
I think some DLR services terminate at Mudchute, rather than going on and across the river. Crossharbour, which I'd describe as beyond rather than behind the Asda store, does look a sensible alternative for people who would cross Mudchute Park.
I'm a country tigger, and I've been more scared walking down Cornmarket Street in Oxford. And, where it is, there's possibly plenty of light in that Park.
What if it was someone attacking just redheads. Or people under 5 feet tall. Would you have any objection to a sign telling people that fit those descriptions should be extra careful?
I'm not about to put my safety aside for my politics, that's just foolish.
I'd imagine since they aren't murders, they know that the attacker is male. What if they put race in, too, and put BLACK MALES PLEASE DO NOT ATTACK OUR WOMEN would people be ok with that?
The things people do to make a point, seriously...well good for them.
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Date: 2009-08-18 06:16 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-18 06:36 pm (UTC)In Ottawa, we had two horrible incidents a few years ago where two women were murdered in wooded areas that were actually quite close to well-travelled roads/housing developments. The best that could be reconstructed afterwards is that the attackers fooled the women into stopping and talking to them, rather than jumping out of shrubbery.
We had two recent incidents in the last month of attacks on paths -- this time both victims were male.
If an area is dangerous for women, it's dangerous for everyone.
The reaction should be to remove any obvious hiding places for attackers, possibly to increase lighting (if that can be done w/o increasing glare), and if necessary, put up signage suggesting that it not be used after dark. That also depends whether the path is an important pedestrian/cyclist link that needs to be accessible 24h/day or whether it's just for recreation.
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Date: 2009-08-18 07:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-18 07:24 pm (UTC)Mudchute DLR is where the line goes underground, and one side is open parkland. Crossharbour is the next station north, Island Gardens the next south, both with more urban approaches.
I think some DLR services terminate at Mudchute, rather than going on and across the river. Crossharbour, which I'd describe as beyond rather than behind the Asda store, does look a sensible alternative for people who would cross Mudchute Park.
I'm a country tigger, and I've been more scared walking down Cornmarket Street in Oxford. And, where it is, there's possibly plenty of light in that Park.
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Date: 2009-08-18 10:52 pm (UTC)I'm not about to put my safety aside for my politics, that's just foolish.
I'd imagine since they aren't murders, they know that the attacker is male. What if they put race in, too, and put BLACK MALES PLEASE DO NOT ATTACK OUR WOMEN would people be ok with that?
The things people do to make a point, seriously...well good for them.
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Date: 2009-08-18 11:06 pm (UTC)