Nemesis... ?
Feb. 6th, 2011 12:58 pmWe can only hope.
Bush cancels trip to Switzerland
(Reuters) - Former President George W. Bush has canceled a visit to Switzerland, where he was to address a Jewish charity gala, due to the risk of legal action against him for alleged torture, rights groups said on Saturday.
Bush's camp, and the organizers say it's not that, but rather the protests against him were threatening to become violent. Well that, or the presence of protests giving the charity a black eye (not that asking someone who admits to thinking torture is a good thing supporting you might not be worthy of a black eye).
The attempt of various human rights groups to get the signatories to the International Conventions Against Torture (which was one of Reagan's actually praiseworthy accomplishments; he said there were things civilised nations don't do. Bush doesn't seem to agree), to live up to the terms of the treaty; i.e. prosecute people who commit, or organise, torture, has been interesting.
Donald Rumsfeld fled Paris for Germany when a group in France filed a complaint.
I'm with General Sanchez; who was the commander of troops in Iraq when Abu Ghraib made the news; we need to have real investigations. He wants a truth commission. He is more restrained than I am. I want prosecutions. I want the Grainers and Englunds to have the comfort (cold though it may be) of seeing the people who told them; by establishing the conditions, that abusing people, degrading them and, yes, torturing them, was ok; are also in the dock.
The treaty obliges us to do that. If we won't it obliges others to do it.
The Swiss gov't is saying Bush has some sort of immunity, as a former head of state. Not everyone agrees, Dominique Baettig, a member of the Swiss parliament from the right-wing People's Party, wrote to the Swiss federal government last week calling for the arrest of Bush for alleged war crimes if he came to the neutral country.
Pinochet thought he had immunity, and on much firmer ground than Bush; the law in Chile said he was immune. That didn't matter to Spain; which invoked the clause in the treaty which says that if a nation won't prosecute it's citizens who torture, then it's open season on them; first come, first served.
If Interpol can serve a warrant on Assange, we can only hope they will do the same for Bush.
Bush cancels trip to Switzerland
(Reuters) - Former President George W. Bush has canceled a visit to Switzerland, where he was to address a Jewish charity gala, due to the risk of legal action against him for alleged torture, rights groups said on Saturday.
Bush's camp, and the organizers say it's not that, but rather the protests against him were threatening to become violent. Well that, or the presence of protests giving the charity a black eye (not that asking someone who admits to thinking torture is a good thing supporting you might not be worthy of a black eye).
The attempt of various human rights groups to get the signatories to the International Conventions Against Torture (which was one of Reagan's actually praiseworthy accomplishments; he said there were things civilised nations don't do. Bush doesn't seem to agree), to live up to the terms of the treaty; i.e. prosecute people who commit, or organise, torture, has been interesting.
Donald Rumsfeld fled Paris for Germany when a group in France filed a complaint.
I'm with General Sanchez; who was the commander of troops in Iraq when Abu Ghraib made the news; we need to have real investigations. He wants a truth commission. He is more restrained than I am. I want prosecutions. I want the Grainers and Englunds to have the comfort (cold though it may be) of seeing the people who told them; by establishing the conditions, that abusing people, degrading them and, yes, torturing them, was ok; are also in the dock.
The treaty obliges us to do that. If we won't it obliges others to do it.
The Swiss gov't is saying Bush has some sort of immunity, as a former head of state. Not everyone agrees, Dominique Baettig, a member of the Swiss parliament from the right-wing People's Party, wrote to the Swiss federal government last week calling for the arrest of Bush for alleged war crimes if he came to the neutral country.
Pinochet thought he had immunity, and on much firmer ground than Bush; the law in Chile said he was immune. That didn't matter to Spain; which invoked the clause in the treaty which says that if a nation won't prosecute it's citizens who torture, then it's open season on them; first come, first served.
If Interpol can serve a warrant on Assange, we can only hope they will do the same for Bush.