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pecunium ([personal profile] pecunium) wrote2010-03-21 11:59 am

WTF?

Recently, at work, something odd happened.

Guy came in, and started to ask me questions about knives. So far all is normal. Selling knives is a lot of what I do. We talk about this and that, and he starts being discoursive. He then asks me one of those questions I've had, now and again, though not here; at SLT.

"What do you think of women using knives?"


"I don't have any problem with it."

He went on, saying from things he'd seen them doing in the kitchen it gave him the willies. I said he ought to see the things I see men doing with knives. Then I tried to point out that it was more a matter of preconceptions than anything else. I told him I'd been in the army for 167 years, and I taught firearms handling, as well as knife skills. This was to lead into telling him that I far prefer to have female students (in firearms) than I do male ones (in knives it doesn't have the same gender skew, though there are traits I think I see more in women than in men. There are other traits I think I see in men more. some good, some bad, in both sexes).

That did, so I thoght, derail the conversation, but it was being a bit strange, and I wanted to done with it. He started asking me questions about guns, and I started actually moving him out of the store. On the way he started asking me about my thoughts on "open carry". My thoughts on the carryng of firearms are pretty simple. Most people shouldn't do it because they don't think it through carefully enough (for more detailed ideas of my thinking you can read the post/comments in places like Making Light (where the subject has come up, more than once).

I tried to say this, gently, but I was starting to get an odd vibe. I actually started pushing him out of the store (my boss actually noticed this). At the door he kept going, and then it happened, he explained why he was looking into things like "open carry" (which right he didn't know we had in Calif. never mind that as configured it's a mess... asking for trouble and conferring no real benefit to anyone who isn't willing to spend lots of time getting a number of drills down to pure muscle memory. Even if that's done the requirements still make you much more target than anything else... all of which I mentioned to him).

It's because of the political situation now, and the "trouble we have coming with the blacks and the browns".

I was croggled. He'd just given me what can only be described as the tea-bagger's secret handshake. I wasn't certain until he added, "You know I used to be a liberal."

The next say, he was back. Asked if I had a card, and then (when I said I didn't really. Which was true, in context. I don't have a card for my work, and I had no intent of sharing my personal one with him). That, it seemed was ok. He had one to give me, with a slightly conspiratorial leaning in as he said, "I might have some work for you."

[identity profile] sylphslider.livejournal.com 2010-03-22 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] sethg 2010-03-22 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

[identity profile] janetl.livejournal.com 2010-03-22 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, my. I have put my foot in it. Sorry. Of course there are prejudiced jerks in every walk of life. I do think that saying this sort of stuff out loud to strangers is more unlikely in an urban, upscale environment. Not fashionable.

[identity profile] jaylake.livejournal.com 2010-03-22 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry for hijacking the thread. I'm just as happy we both behaved whilst in your parlor.

[identity profile] sharon-masters.livejournal.com 2010-03-22 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I am not reading all 101 comments:)
Just thought i would say that the new Owner in my life is going over to Stan to train the locals, and so i keep an eye on things lately much more closely- and the brain pans of most frightened conservatives are starting to make me think it's safer over THERE than over here.
These folks aren't Americans- they are selfish greedy little minds with no education and less intellect. They don't want the USA based on our constitution, but on their own skewed version of what's fair for THEM at the expense of everyone else.
Your blog- hell, life- always fascinates me. Wish i had more time to read more often.

[identity profile] pecunium.livejournal.com 2010-03-22 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
We all put our feet in it sometimes. I think, actually, it's more common in urban environment. "Rural/small town" (for want of a better way to say, non-urban)jerks are more likely to be quiet about things like that to people they don't know.

In the city people are far more willing to hit up strangers in the hope they will be sympathetic.

[identity profile] commodorified.livejournal.com 2010-03-22 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
it's the suave way they wipe the foam from their lips with a bit of perfectly-pressed white linen that scares me...

[identity profile] pecunium.livejournal.com 2010-03-22 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
As highjackings go, it was in keeping with the topic, and not foaming at the mouth/hashing the same points ad infinitum (even the point you two were working over was being explored, not repeated at more volume).

I mentioned guns, their use and carry. If I got a bit of the usual (people with very different opinions on them) I ought not be surprised, and have no right to be upset (with the usual caveats about goodbehavior).

WTF?

[identity profile] the-ogre.livejournal.com 2010-03-22 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
That is more than slightly insane.

Re: Creepy creepy creepy

[identity profile] coffeeem.livejournal.com 2010-03-22 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, they don't get worse. They just live longer. *g*

[identity profile] apostle-of-eris.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
I am not anti-gun, I'm pro-knife.
Consider the merits of the knife. In the first place, you have to catch up with someone in order to stab him. A general substitution of knives for guns would promote physical fitness. We'd turn into a whole nation of great runners. Plus, knives don't ricochet. And people are seldom killed while cleaning their knives.
-- Molly Ivins

[identity profile] vvvexation.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
...I assumed it was a typo.

[identity profile] minimo.livejournal.com 2010-03-23 07:33 am (UTC)(link)
I think you ought to tell the manager about the situation and have him call you to the stockroom to do something urgent if the customer comes in again.

[identity profile] don-fitch.livejournal.com 2010-03-24 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)

More like a hippie, okay, that I've gathered, but I assume that you're still white, wiry, youngish-looking (late 20's, or early 30's --in the dusk, with the light behind you), and that -- even in Suave Mode -- you practically project an aura of alertness, intensity, and maybe idealistic passion. That combination rather suggests (to me) a significant possibility of some kind of fanaticism. The guy you describe was, I'd suggest, not far off target, in a sense, but was simply very wrong in assuming that you share some of his basic values rather than being diametrically opposed to them. Or so it seems from here.

[identity profile] shadowflyer.livejournal.com 2010-03-28 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Pfff. Hair or no hair, bearing will out and you will always to some degree read as military. Which means that right wing nut bars will at least have hope that you're a fellow-traveler. For which, my heart goes out to you.

A dog teleporting? That's a surprise

[identity profile] billstewart.livejournal.com 2010-03-28 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
My cats teleport all the time, especially when they're startled or there might be food at their destination. But dogs?

"A Girl Needs a Knife"

[identity profile] billstewart.livejournal.com 2010-03-28 07:16 pm (UTC)(link)
My first reactions to Terry's story were WTF?, and the barefoot in the kitchen meme, and also to remember an incident from a decade or so ago when a coworker of mine was showing off her new Swiss army knife. I'd recently gotten that Flash Girls album, but figured that breaking into obscure song in the middle of a crowded restaurant might be generally viewed as strange, and as far as I know she hadn't bought to do "work", just work.
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I yoinked it, as I have done most of my best icons, from a friend.
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