2. The UN has a lot of sanctions against Burma for one, it also is an Illegal "government and trade with the UK is +200 million pounds per year. Our MP's can not do anything. 50 years of watching, yet your saying we should just watch. I am using Burma as an example of the ability of governments to lobby.
3. If you look at the Political Change part of what I do, this is in that field, of helping to elect people of conscience, that we will have nothing to do with once in politics, unlike oil companies etc wanting to have influence, we have none.
95% of the clients for these girls are local people, how would a UK MP make it less profitable? Serious question.
"Because even if you pull this nonsense off, once, you can't stop the trade, at best you are putting a band-aid on a spouting artery."
Very similar to something I say on the blog pages. WO is no band-aid, it's no attempt at changing the tide, that's Political Change and GEB.
"You kidnap her because you are taking her by force. If you set up an agency, whereby they came to you, and you then got them out (a la the Underground Railroad, in the US) that would be different."
No, you do not understand how we get these girls out and you do not know it is not with their consent, as you have not done this before. Do you know, most girls in in one country are unlikely to be of that nationality on child trafficking, they are moved to other countries to make them feel less able to escape, if they do, they do not speak the language. Read, Sex Slaves by Louise Brown, simple read, very informative for a first book on the subject.
I am happy to tell you the country and Minister of health in a private email, but I will not put this in a public forum as she asked this not to be in any press etc, as it breeds attention to this Island. Happy to give it to you privately, so email if you want this detail.
"I'm sorry, I misunderstood aspects of the "pyramid" structure of all of this; in a pyramid everything supports everything else. This, apparently, more like an umbrella."
No, it is pyramid structure of support.
As for CS, and 30 Co, you are asking people to support them, so you can attempt this other stuff. That's why I think it's bad. If CS is such a swell thing, it ought not need all the folderol of Blood Rose and White Orchid, &c.
CT - not CS. It is a separate thing, each division is. The only thing I'm doing differently to a normal company, is telling people what other things I am doing, telling people this is what the money goes towards. Would you prefer I simply made money from a pro profit and not do anything else?
"I am mocking you, because I think what you are doing is ridiculous, and things which are foolhardy and dangerous, which fool people who can't see through the flim-flam into supporting them, deserve ridicule."
You do not insult me but many intelligent people and only make yourself look less, I understand if you say things against what I'm doing, but in this way it seems less than what you are trying to say in a decent way.
Is it pleasant to be ridiculed, no. But I can't help that. You put this hare-brained thing out there. I think it's dangerous. I can sit back and do nothing; which means it has no opposition, or I can say what I think.
"If not me, who? If not now, when?"
TK
What part of hare-brained?
Please list and state which division and why?
I'm trying my best here Terry, that's all I can do.
Re: Founder Response
1. Your opinion, OK.
2. The UN has a lot of sanctions against Burma for one, it also is an Illegal "government and trade with the UK is +200 million pounds per year. Our MP's can not do anything. 50 years of watching, yet your saying we should just watch. I am using Burma as an example of the ability of governments to lobby.
3. If you look at the Political Change part of what I do, this is in that field, of helping to elect people of conscience, that we will have nothing to do with once in politics, unlike oil companies etc wanting to have influence, we have none.
95% of the clients for these girls are local people, how would a UK MP make it less profitable? Serious question.
"Because even if you pull this nonsense off, once, you can't stop the trade, at best you are putting a band-aid on a spouting artery."
Very similar to something I say on the blog pages. WO is no band-aid, it's no attempt at changing the tide, that's Political Change and GEB.
"You kidnap her because you are taking her by force. If you set up an agency, whereby they came to you, and you then got them out (a la the Underground Railroad, in the US) that would be different."
No, you do not understand how we get these girls out and you do not know it is not with their consent, as you have not done this before. Do you know, most girls in in one country are unlikely to be of that nationality on child trafficking, they are moved to other countries to make them feel less able to escape, if they do, they do not speak the language. Read, Sex Slaves by Louise Brown, simple read, very informative for a first book on the subject.
I am happy to tell you the country and Minister of health in a private email, but I will not put this in a public forum as she asked this not to be in any press etc, as it breeds attention to this Island. Happy to give it to you privately, so email if you want this detail.
"I'm sorry, I misunderstood aspects of the "pyramid" structure of all of this; in a pyramid everything supports everything else. This, apparently, more like an umbrella."
No, it is pyramid structure of support.
As for CS, and 30 Co, you are asking people to support them, so you can attempt this other stuff. That's why I think it's bad. If CS is such a swell thing, it ought not need all the folderol of Blood Rose and White Orchid, &c.
CT - not CS. It is a separate thing, each division is. The only thing I'm doing differently to a normal company, is telling people what other things I am doing, telling people this is what the money goes towards. Would you prefer I simply made money from a pro profit and not do anything else?
"I am mocking you, because I think what you are doing is ridiculous, and things which are foolhardy and dangerous, which fool people who can't see through the flim-flam into supporting them, deserve ridicule."
You do not insult me but many intelligent people and only make yourself look less, I understand if you say things against what I'm doing, but in this way it seems less than what you are trying to say in a decent way.
Is it pleasant to be ridiculed, no. But I can't help that. You put this hare-brained thing out there. I think it's dangerous. I can sit back and do nothing; which means it has no opposition, or I can say what I think.
"If not me, who? If not now, when?"
TK
What part of hare-brained?
Please list and state which division and why?
I'm trying my best here Terry, that's all I can do.
Ryan